TVVAT2 rezzing against TVVAT makes no sense

Kirisame Marisa · Post by **Kirisame Marisa** » 16 Jun 2013, 06:03

andrew_wong93 wrote:This is the biggest load of shit I've read in a long while. Kirisame sounds just like EBB with fancy words.

Hi Andrew! Welcome to this thread, though really, it is LL who should be carrying out the formalities. Thank you very much for your cogent criticism of the arguments in this thread. Your wise critique of the central points in this thread, which you have covered more than adequately, is much appreciated.

andrew_wong93 · Post by **andrew_wong93** » 16 Jun 2013, 06:28

Kirisame Marisa wrote:
it is LL who should be carrying out the formalities.

Why should he?

wasi006 · Post by **wasi006** » 16 Jun 2013, 06:34

Hey Marisa,
I am Tiger's CM. and has been playing SO for quite a long time. Lemme Tell you what I have noticed. When 2-3 clans are up, twat2 doesn't rezz. but when TWAT sinks them all, right then twat2 rezzes, and multiple times too. I have been playing BS long enough to know when a clan is feeding another. and I am afraid it does look that way.

what is the average level of twat2 captains? I am guessing it's not much above 100. but tvvat captains are of much higher levels. so tell me how can you defend them and gain free XP?

Kirisame Marisa · Post by **Kirisame Marisa** » 16 Jun 2013, 06:37

andrew_wong93 wrote:
Kirisame Marisa wrote:
it is LL who should be carrying out the formalities.
Why should he?

His thread

Kirisame Marisa · Post by **Kirisame Marisa** » 16 Jun 2013, 06:58

wasi006 wrote:Hey Marisa,
I am Tiger's CM. and has been playing SO for quite a long time. Lemme Tell you what I have noticed. When 2-3 clans are up, twat2 doesn't rezz. but when TWAT sinks them all, right then twat2 rezzes, and multiple times too. I have been playing BS long enough to know when a clan is feeding another. and I am afraid it does look that way.

what is the average level of twat2 captains? I am guessing it's not much above 100. but tvvat captains are of much higher levels. so tell me how can you defend them and gain free XP?

Hi wasi006,

It has always been a pleasure for us to war against Tigers, as every rez against you guys has proven to be an enjoyable and challenging one. I am sure an experienced CM in Sky Ocean is aware of the difficulties that arise from rezzing on gangbangs. Members may hit wrong targets, implicit alliances are broken and reforged just as quickly, and ninjas often swoop down from the ceiling for the final kill. As such, we at TVVAT2 had decided that the rational course of action was to rez against the winner of the GB, for though they may have triumphed, their victory would probably have proved to be pyrrhic, as they would be more likely to be ap-fatigued.

Unfortunately, for the sake of our members' privacy, and for the purpose of remaining competitive in the future, I cannot reveal the level of our captains. I can, however, assure you that TVVAT's member base is diverse enough to give our defenders a busy time, an observation you can make yourself next time when warring.

I am truly sorry that you feel that we are feeding. We at LLdSUdX hope that this misunderstanding has be resolved, and I look forward to meeting your clan in wars in the future.

Bert Stillaert · Post by **Bert Stillaert** » 16 Jun 2013, 07:46

Lol on OPSEC
Memebers avg can just be found by clicking clan on clan ranking ->
* TVVAT Average Members Level: 104
And TVVAT2 isn't showing up on the clan ranking at 16/06/2013 2:45 sios!

Kirisame Marisa · Post by **Kirisame Marisa** » 16 Jun 2013, 07:51

Bert Stillaert wrote:Lol on OPSEC
Memebers avg can just be found by clicking clan on clan ranking ->
* TVVAT Average Members Level: 104

What's that supposed to mean? That all of TVVAT's members are level 104?

Bert Stillaert wrote: And TVVAT2 isn't showing up on the clan ranking at 16/06/2013 2:45 sios!

That's because our clan got disbanded unfairly :(

Sneaky Miggy · Post by **Sneaky Miggy** » 16 Jun 2013, 08:57

Kirisame Marisa wrote:
Bert Stillaert wrote:Lol on OPSEC
Memebers avg can just be found by clicking clan on clan ranking ->
* TVVAT Average Members Level: 104
What's that supposed to mean? That all of TVVAT's members are level 104?

Bert Stillaert · Post by **Bert Stillaert** » 16 Jun 2013, 09:12

How can you come form "AVERAGE" to all. The text says average. It simply means that TVVAT's members are mostly all above 100! If you'd care to look at the level listing you'd 18 of TVVAT's members are above 100 and of those 7 above 120.

From what i remember from our skirmishes, i'm in kai, your highest level was 100. How can you gain effective exp from the few below level 110 in TVVAT. The others will just run over you.

From our war with TVVAT this morning it was clearly shown that only TVVAT-members level 103 and above attacked as was mostly the cases in our other wars with them. So how can you get exp defending to level. As that gives best exp when you sink them. If it's just to max the attacker will most likely get all exp.

I'm a mere level 123 and can only defend against 5 of TVVAT's players that are in my range.

The fun part is the highest ranking captain i can see of your new clan is Denure (LLdSUdX) 67 and lowest of TVVAt i can see is gideonzhou23 (TVVAT) 68

sneaky: Lol i took a bit to long to type and going throuth our logs!

Kirisame Marisa · Post by **Kirisame Marisa** » 16 Jun 2013, 09:14

Sneaky Miggy wrote:
Kirisame Marisa wrote:
Bert Stillaert wrote:Lol on OPSEC
Memebers avg can just be found by clicking clan on clan ranking ->
* TVVAT Average Members Level: 104
What's that supposed to mean? That all of TVVAT's members are level 104?
I can tell you that the following members are all from TVVAT:

https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=mangkiko
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.ph ... n+Abhishek
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Dark+Lord
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Sam+Lee
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=jhunthel
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Evil+DEvil
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Stevo26
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=makahai
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=JLCusing
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=darkness
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=yan2x
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=darkcloud
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Kirosana
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Slut
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Cluedo
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.ph ... low+Monkey
https://skyweb.ochospace.com/profile.php?id=Zarroc

these 17 players, almost 2/3 their clan, are all level 103 or above. I found them in the top 100 players and there are only 2 players in the top 100 not in a clan, so successful defending... not too likely a story.

Nice selectivity. As they are all level 103 or above, and the average member level is 104, do you know what that tells us about the rest of the clan? It tells us that the rest of the clan has to be below level 103. That would be 13 members reachable by our defenders, more than enough to keep us busy. After all, I don't recall saying that we defended to the highest level...doing that would truly be feeding.

Sky Tan · Post by **Sky Tan** » 16 Jun 2013, 09:22

HI
ALL
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not playing SO just came in for the post count....................

cya bye

Kirisame Marisa · Post by **Kirisame Marisa** » 16 Jun 2013, 09:30

Bert Stillaert wrote:How can you come form "AVERAGE" to all. The text says average. It simply means that TVVAT's members are mostly all above 100! If you'd care to look at the level listing you'd 18 of TVVAT's members are above 100 and of those 7 above 120.

Actually, the MEDIAN level of the members would be a more effective gauge of that. Also, are not 13 attackers more than a handful, especially for the 3-4 active players??

Bert Stillaert wrote: From what i remember from our skirmishes, i'm in kai, your highest level was 100. How can you gain effective exp from the few below level 110 in TVVAT. The others will just run over you.

Nobody's telling you to defend to the highest level mate. From experience, only soldier missilers are able to do defend past the 10-level range successfully (we have a few missilers in our ranks btw). In any case, 13 people attacking is more than enough exp for defending, unless you're greedy or foolish enough to attempt suicide by defending to max level.

Bert Stillaert wrote:From our war with TVVAT this morning it was clearly shown that only TVVAT-members level 103 and above attacked as was mostly the cases in our other wars with them. So how can you get exp defending to level.

I highly doubt that TVVAT would allow slackers to remain in their ranks. Did you consider the fact that high levels have bigger aps tanks, and are less likely to run out of aps?

Bert Stillaert wrote:As that gives best exp when you sink them. If it's just to max the attacker will most likely get all exp.

Nobody's actually doing that. BTW, for the attacker to gain all exp, attacker must remain undamaged throughout battle.

Bert Stillaert wrote:I'm a mere level 123 and can only defend against 5 of TVVAT's players that are in my range.

Anything more than 40% sink rate including fort and superweapon sinks is actually pretty good for a defender. Do you really expect a 100% defend rate?

Bert Stillaert wrote:The fun part is the highest ranking captain i can see of your new clan is Denure (LLdSUdX) 67 and lowest of TVVAt i can see is gideonzhou23 (TVVAT) 68

I can assure you that Denure is not our highest levelled player, though he certainly is the highest ranked. I have no idea what caused you to make that misunderstanding. :P

Bert Stillaert wrote:sneaky: Lol i took a bit to long to type and going throuth our logs!

Should have gone through them longer.

Bert Stillaert · Post by **Bert Stillaert** » 16 Jun 2013, 09:45

Hi Sky,

Nice and cya around on BS then.

Master of Clan X · Post by **Master of Clan X** » 16 Jun 2013, 15:28

Kirisame Marisa wrote: I suppose your ignoring my other arguments is an indication that you accept them as valid then.

Wow. So desperate! What a loser!

Kirisame Marisa wrote: when grown men are talking.

See the profile picture of the "grown man" below. More like pervy old fart.

Master of Clan X · Post by **Master of Clan X** » 16 Jun 2013, 15:35

Kirisame Marisa wrote:Also, the fact that you actually quoted a statement from later on in the same post is evidence that you actually read the rest, contrary to your statement that you didn't read the rest. With this evidence, I charge you, LL, of being a liar.

I didn't quote from the same paragraph, dumbass. You're so stupid you can't even remember what your wrote. LAWL! Keep grasping at straws.

Kirisame Marisa wrote:
Is insulting others and ruining successful Facebook games a part of your job description?

"Ruining" cheating bastards like you is my hobby. The insults I throw in for free.

Kirisame Marisa wrote:
Master of Clan X wrote:^ Blatant lie. TWAT2 made multi attacks/defense vs ranked #7 clan (with 1 token) AND ZERO attacks vs TWAT with FOUR FUCKING tokens.
Is this the core of the issue then?

The core of the issue is that you're a lying cheating crybaby. I thought that was obvious.

Kirisame Marisa wrote:You claim that I plagiarised from Wikipedia. The burden of proof is on you to show that.

Dumbass can't recognize an insult when he receives one. Keep rambling about "burden of proof" you one trick pony.

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