* Poll about Crafting recipes.

[Forum Mod 2]

I think there are some recipes that still require level 1 items to craft items and therefore some players might end upgrading their items to +4 or 5 or whatever is the max upgrade and then later realize that they needed an non upgraded item to craft a higher level item.

etc: To craft gun ray, it require a ruby ray and gun buster but in general most people tend to upgrade ruby ray to +5 and then they cannot use the ruby ray+5 to craft gun ray.

Take note that I do understand that it might take extra resources for players if we do that but I think generally that is more logical in terms of progressive game play to me though.

So just wanna hear what you guys think before I try to propose to the BS team to allow me to change all the current recipes to make them use the highest level upgrade items.

Pre emp: Just in case, someone wanna suggest that we allow all level items of the items to be use for crafting like rr +1, rr+2, rr+3 and etc to craft gun ray, that is probably not possible.

With regards,
Peter

[Jonathan Fresco]

> Pre emp: Just in case, someone wanna suggest that we allow all level items
> of the items to be use for crafting like rr +1, rr+2, rr+3 and etc to craft
> gun ray, that is probably not possible.
>
> With regards,
> Peter


Erm, why not ? What's the main obstacle? That is exactly what I was about to suggest lol...

To my n00b programming mind, isn't a bit of recipe code tweak all it takes?

[Samuel Chiou]

Why do you want to cater for retards? Aren't there already too many of them playing BS?

[hon]

Must forward planning :P

[Sky Tan]

yeah...or have a universal backwards formula.

i.e
RR+4 + 5mil + alloy plating = RR+3

[5mil + ALLOY ] fixed

[Max Code]

Peter See wrote:
> I think there are some recipes that still require level 1 items to craft
> items and therefore some players might end upgrading their items to +4 or 5
> or whatever is the max upgrade and then later realize that they needed an
> non upgraded item to craft a higher level item.
>
> etc: To craft gun ray, it require a ruby ray and gun buster but in general
> most people tend to upgrade ruby ray to +5 and then they cannot use the
> ruby ray+5 to craft gun ray.
>
> Take note that I do understand that it might take extra resources for
> players if we do that but I think generally that is more logical in terms
> of progressive game play to me though.
>
> So just wanna hear what you guys think before I try to propose to the BS
> team to allow me to change all the current recipes to make them use the
> highest level upgrade items.
>
> Pre emp: Just in case, someone wanna suggest that we allow all level items
> of the items to be use for crafting like rr +1, rr+2, rr+3 and etc to craft
> gun ray, that is probably not possible.
>
> With regards,
> Peter

Simple just get a new RR using ocho or gold with silver license...
That what ocho shop is for isn't it...
And since u got RR+5 why bother about Gun Ray since you are targeting HERR in the first place when you refine the RR...

Or you can make a unrefine recipes like -1 & -5 and put them in casino or ocho shop...

[Kevin Wislawski]

Sky Tan wrote:
> yeah...or have a universal backwards formula.
>
> i.e
> RR+4 + 5mil + alloy plating = RR+3
>
> [5mil + ALLOY ] fixed

+1 as some upgraded there weapons/parts by mistake and then cant use them for a lvl

[Jerry Orlemann]

+1

Or just make it so any grade can be used for the crafting.

[nad0886]

Can we have a way to downgrade our parts and weapons? It's okay if the gold and resources used for upgrading are not refunded.
i think that will solve the problem.

[LadyGreenleaf]

Downgrade an upgraded weapon?

Read this and the answer by jd_mcfly! I laughed so hard my colleague gave me funny looks. LOL!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 655AAnBJFJ

I'm not saying it cannot be done in BS. Of course there are ways to take apart an upgraded item and refit them into the original setting. It'll just cost you. Just that the concept suddenly made me remember that funny post I encountered some months ago. :)

[hss]

U are saying that all the captions of Sios should suffer about upgrading weapons/parts to max upgrade lvl only because some captions can not remain conscious enough in upgrading weapons/parts only to certain lvl.
It's their problem and they should learn lesson for future. why are u proposing to waste every body else's precious Plasma rock and ore.

[Sneaky Miggy]

There was a thread a while back about downgrading items... so that minis could use them again or crafting certain weapons... Just make resources to unrefine... same chances as refining up, to derefine down.

[Mysterious Captain]

Actually Peter.. it would make sense if RR+5 x Gun Buster = Better Gunray.

[Adryan Poh]

No.. Just leave it.. I prefer not having wasting resources to get it to +5.

[Supa Mario]

This issue has no straigh forward answer. some cases is good, some cases is not good.

Example:
I am rammer, i want resilient sphere.
Then all i want to do is go to the ocho shop and get the spiraling sphere and craft my resilient sphere. If you make this change, i will be angry because i have to use extra resources to take the sphere to +4.

If i were gunner, maybe not that bad, since i might have one spiraling+4 around
But still, what if i have my 2x spiraling spheres+4 for weapon use?
Then i will be angry with this change too because i have to refine yet another sphere.

I think that the problem is when there is cross-item category crafts. i.e. Parts that require Weapons. Or Weapons that require another kind of weapon (example, assassin cannon, a Long-range that needs a Ram for crafting)

So, what you said in the preemptive comment is the best solution to it. Let any refined version of an item be used for crafting.