DAMN OPED JET HAMMERS

[Jaime Ng]

Never has a struggle so real and so persistent being suffered by us poor... poor gunners. Jet Hammer was and STILL is an underpriced, overpowered weapon. NERF the fork out of Jet Hammer please!!!

or... just lower Metal Punisher's cost. :P

[hon]

+1

[Best Ping]

nerf AP as well

[DSD]

+1

There should be implemented some sub guns with 1k range as well (if range is 1k keep the ember cost, but if it's under 1k range, price should be much lesser)

[andrew_wong93]

goddamn Jethammers still only goddamn 500 embers! HERESY! this is unacceptable...

[Andrew Bowman]

Good to know there's still whiners in Sios. Everything is now a little more right in the world.


On another note, no. Jet Hammers are freakin heavy and yeah at 500 they aren't super expensive but from my experience so far, you won't use that many of them until 230+ because there are better alternatives.

Also, Super Magnet anyone?

If you add up the ember you need for level 200+ weapons that are strictly for each class (I don't really count weapons lower cause they're cheap and I don't count Time Bombs or HL because they're useful regardless of your class), you'll see something like this:

Rammers - 4 x PM (1600) + 4 x JH (2000) + 6 x BD (4500) + 1 x SM (7500) = 15,600 ember

Gunners - I'll count pyro cause I'm nice - 4 x pyro (1200) + 4 x MP (4000) + 4 x DC (2000) + 2 x Atlas (1500) = 8700 ember

Yeah that's a little skewed I think. 500 for JH is fine. Even if you count HL and Time Bomb, it's just about dead even. So get over yourself.

[Best Ping]

Andrew, your number gives me heartache :v

[DSD]

Good to know there's still whiners in Sios. Everything is now a little more right in the world.


On another note, no. Jet Hammers are freakin heavy and yeah at 500 they aren't super expensive but from my experience so far, you won't use that many of them until 230+ because there are better alternatives.

Also, Super Magnet anyone?

If you add up the ember you need for level 200+ weapons that are strictly for each class (I don't really count weapons lower cause they're cheap and I don't count Time Bombs or HL because they're useful regardless of your class), you'll see something like this:

Rammers - 4 x PM (1600) + 4 x JH (2000) + 6 x BD (4500) + 1 x SM (7500) = 15,600 ember

Gunners - I'll count pyro cause I'm nice - 4 x pyro (1200) + 4 x MP (4000) + 4 x DC (2000) + 2 x Atlas (1500) = 8700 ember

Yeah that's a little skewed I think. 500 for JH is fine. Even if you count HL and Time Bomb, it's just about dead even. So get over yourself.

Well, I see you can calculate right, but... please take into consideration the d/w ratio of the weapons, the slowdown effect (which is extremely important for attacking rammers and defending gunners) and last but not least the range of the weapons. I'd say you are totally right overall. All I'm after are 1k ranged sub guns, cause for gunners that is a very limited area - there is only the deffensive drones and thats about it. Feel free to disagree with me. And by now you should know that I like to defend you, you yummy rammers ;)

[Andrew Bowman]

Good to know there's still whiners in Sios. Everything is now a little more right in the world.


On another note, no. Jet Hammers are freakin heavy and yeah at 500 they aren't super expensive but from my experience so far, you won't use that many of them until 230+ because there are better alternatives.

Also, Super Magnet anyone?

If you add up the ember you need for level 200+ weapons that are strictly for each class (I don't really count weapons lower cause they're cheap and I don't count Time Bombs or HL because they're useful regardless of your class), you'll see something like this:

Rammers - 4 x PM (1600) + 4 x JH (2000) + 6 x BD (4500) + 1 x SM (7500) = 15,600 ember

Gunners - I'll count pyro cause I'm nice - 4 x pyro (1200) + 4 x MP (4000) + 4 x DC (2000) + 2 x Atlas (1500) = 8700 ember

Yeah that's a little skewed I think. 500 for JH is fine. Even if you count HL and Time Bomb, it's just about dead even. So get over yourself.

Well, I see you can calculate right, but... please take into consideration the d/w ratio of the weapons, the slowdown effect (which is extremely important for attacking rammers and defending gunners) and last but not least the range of the weapons. I'd say you are totally right overall. All I'm after are 1k ranged sub guns, cause for gunners that is a very limited area - there is only the deffensive drones and thats about it. Feel free to disagree with me. And by now you should know that I like to defend you, you yummy rammers ;)

1k sub guns? Those are called cannons. Maybe you should look them up.

[Jiggily Wiggily]

Gunners need to buy all the missiles too, as most cannons are a pile of shit.

[yangsomething]

Ion laser+5 DW250, range3000.
HR+5, DW250, range8000.
Hellfire Missile+5 DW254.5, range5000.
Chaos Cannon+5, DW245, range2000.
Multi Ray+5, DW243.7, range2000.
Justice Ray, DW250, range3000.
Chaos Orb, DW337.5.
Dark Star, DW375.
Devastator Cannon+5,DW240, range2000, it only cost 500 embers
Time Bomb, DW250, only cost 200 embers.
..........


oh........I'm sorry for JH OPed(DW250, range1000) to make u unhappy......
Don't forget Rocket Drill, (+5, DW250, range1000) cost 1500 embers.

[andrew_wong93]

Ion laser+5 DW250, range3000.
HR+5, DW250, range8000.
Hellfire Missile+5 DW254.5, range5000.
Chaos Cannon+5, DW245, range2000.
Multi Ray+5, DW243.7, range2000.
Justice Ray, DW250, range3000.
Chaos Orb, DW337.5.
Dark Star, DW375.
Devastator Cannon+5,DW240, range2000, it only cost 500 embers
Time Bomb, DW250, only cost 200 embers.
..........


oh........I'm sorry for JH OPed(DW250, range1000) to make u unhappy......
Don't forget Rocket Drill, (+5, DW250, range1000) cost 1500 embers.

rammers can use missiles too you genius dont include them. and those subguns u listed mostly top items from events.

[Jaime Ng]

Both of us is buying a bicycle. My bike cost twice as much and goes slower while also less durable. You say later on, your new car is going to cost more than what I will (or won't) pay for my car.

Well, does that changes the fact that my bicycle is STILL way more expensive while at the same time it is STILL a slower bicycle?

Saying that it doesn't fit well in your garage doesn't hold any water to the argument. Your bike is STILL faster and cheaper to own.


and lmao at the other lawyer ranting about high DW of EVENT and SPECIAL items. I just have a couple question though...

Does lovejoy_lawyer uses Devastator and Timebomb in any of his built?

Does lovejoy_yangsomething uses Jet Hammer in any of his build?

[DSD]

1k sub guns? Those are called cannons. Maybe you should look them up.

I guess you are just being in a funny mood making such comments. Kinda irrelevant to the point I was making, don't you think, Andrew?

[DSD]

Ion laser+5 DW250, range3000.
HR+5, DW250, range8000.
Hellfire Missile+5 DW254.5, range5000.
Chaos Cannon+5, DW245, range2000.
Multi Ray+5, DW243.7, range2000.
Justice Ray, DW250, range3000.
Chaos Orb, DW337.5.
Dark Star, DW375.
Devastator Cannon+5,DW240, range2000, it only cost 500 embers
Time Bomb, DW250, only cost 200 embers.
..........


oh........I'm sorry for JH OPed(DW250, range1000) to make u unhappy......
Don't forget Rocket Drill, (+5, DW250, range1000) cost 1500 embers.

Dude, have you even looked at your post? Most of those good items you have listed are top25 event items and lvl 230+ - what are you talking about? And the missiles - why do you even include them in the list? We are talking purely about high-lvl-easy-to-get rams compared to expensive-most-of-the-time-shitty cannons. Weapons are more or less balanced for both classes - range-vs-cost is not.