plz buff scout ><

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Best Ping » 20 Sep 2013, 08:09

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by neilsty » 20 Sep 2013, 10:17

I'm rammer too... gunner are way too oped
Either Buff Blitz activation rate...
or make it /Nav damage increase for melee and missiles

Increase rate for flares and jink based on /nav too

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Jaime Ng » 20 Sep 2013, 10:41

Regarding the Tow Cable Interceptors:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14169

This obviously is an LRR. Good thing Tyler is starting to impose more restriction on close combat weapons.

Now I wonder if they would add Blade of Asura CANNOT BE USED with Demon Scythe, just like Hecatonchier cannot be used with VI. Seems only fair as both are crafted + Casino items, and have insane D:W.

Or release the restriction on Heca + VI.
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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by hon » 20 Sep 2013, 10:46

Jaime Ng wrote:Regarding the Tow Cable Interceptors:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14169

This obviously is an LRR. Good thing Tyler is starting to impose more restriction on close combat weapons.

Now I wonder if they would add Blade of Asura CANNOT BE USED with Demon Scythe, just like Hecatonchier cannot be used with VI. Seems only fair as both are crafted + Casino items, and have insane D:W.

Or release the Restriction on Heca + VI.


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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Maximilian » 20 Sep 2013, 11:11

Jaime Ng wrote:Regarding the Tow Cable Interceptors:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14169

This obviously is an LRR. Good thing Tyler is starting to impose more restriction on close combat weapons.

Now I wonder if they would add Blade of Asura CANNOT BE USED with Demon Scythe, just like Hecatonchier cannot be used with VI. Seems only fair as both are crafted + Casino items, and have insane D:W.

Or release the restriction on Heca + VI.


Remove all Gunner weapon restriction.
Heca + VI
Prism Ray + Void beam + Justice Ray

:3

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Gary Paul » 20 Sep 2013, 12:10

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Sky Tan » 21 Sep 2013, 08:02

Master of Clan X wrote:
Maximilian wrote:There's some inputs about LRR nerfing from others and me, summary as below:
- Make LRR a new Weapon Category, assign 0.4% from NAV instead 0.5%,
- Reduce LRR range, high d/w LRR shouldn't reach 1000 range.


I think we both know that outright reducing the stats of weapons will make people mega pissed and quit the game.

More slowdown from cannons + buff d/w for cannons would be better.



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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Sky Tan » 21 Sep 2013, 08:05

Maximilian wrote:
Jaime Ng wrote:Regarding the Tow Cable Interceptors:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14169

This obviously is an LRR. Good thing Tyler is starting to impose more restriction on close combat weapons.

Now I wonder if they would add Blade of Asura CANNOT BE USED with Demon Scythe, just like Hecatonchier cannot be used with VI. Seems only fair as both are crafted + Casino items, and have insane D:W.

Or release the restriction on Heca + VI.


Remove all Gunner weapon restriction.
Heca + VI
Prism Ray + Void beam + Justice Ray

:3



moving along.....

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Sky Tan » 21 Sep 2013, 11:32

Andrew Bowman wrote:Ok so the point of this thread was saying that ramming speed should be buffed. First off, yes, gunners can equip lots of speed parts and they'll be out of range of your rams on the first round. So you use so LRRs and compensate. Overall, Ramming speed is fine.


IF u used MISSILER i can let u get away.
Base speed slower, no navi stats....we playing same game?



Andrew Bowman wrote:2nd, buffing blitz. I would agree with either boosting the activation rate or switching the percentages. One or the other.


base ratio of navi to dps is 0.5% sub is 0.4% a diference of 20%
Post lvl 200 rams 2.4 ratio
Post lvl 200 subs 3.15 avg ratio -20% = 2.55 ratio

So with Blitz into it 2.4 + 5% = 2.46
Subs will EA 10% willl be back at 2.80
The key issue is Gunner ship has smaller capacity roughly 8% lesser, and taking out the parts and stuff the effective capacity will go even lesser slighlty. On top subs can only fill up to 60-70% of capacity so the offset there is shown between the skills and balancing out.

So 2.80 * 0.7 + 2.0*0.3 = 1.96 + 0.6 = 2.56
Without considering the cap gap.

Andrew Bowman wrote:3rd, nerfing LRRs. I have a tendency to say no. There have been a couple decent suggestions and also a lot of stupid comments. Making them a new class and assigning 0.4% from Nav is good or reducing D/W would work. Not both. Both would be bad. All LRRs under 200 are pretty awful already. Nerfing range might be a partial solution.


yeah...adding new stuff like that will require a gigantic balanicng act.
The LRR below 200 might need some fine tuning prehaps at CERTAIN gaps
But from the way it seems generally in line.

Andrew Bowman wrote:4th, LRRs aren't like subs. So stop comparing the two. Subs are like pseudo rams. LRRs are like pseudo cannons. Looking at it that way, they seem a lot more balanced to me.


See point 2. But they are doing subs like damage with BETTER than Cannon Ratio.
If u get wat i am saying

Andrew Bowman wrote:5th, now we're talking about Blade of Asura and Astral Rain? Way to get off topic. By your logic hon, SB is then a terrible weapon. I mean it only has 200% D/W therefore it's worse then like every ram especially considering how expensive it is to craft. Seriously hon, that was a stupid comment.


She was kinda Off topic. But with HOnglish u know wat u expect
So just trying to say its not FAIR in HongLish



BOA is a casino high item with the best DW
HEct is the same case almost.....But got restriciton
Astral is not high in DW for the case.

So end of my WOT RANT before dinner.


Lastly..........give the man more speeddddddddddddddd

sadly the TS is not speedking
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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by zekkie » 21 Sep 2013, 12:04

Now comparing rams with rams and subs with subs...

Since lvl 200+ LRR have better d/w than most short range rams... then how about introducing lvl 200+ LRS (long range subs) with 1.2k+ range and better d/w than close range subs. Now that make sense. LOL

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by mohigeo33 » 22 Sep 2013, 08:01

Ignatius Agus wrote:i think only jink and flare needs buff
blitz only need more chance to trigger and no need buff damage


yah lets buff "jink" more XD

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Re: plz buff scout ><

Post by Jonathan Fresco » 23 Sep 2013, 10:34

Jink/flares really should only be usable on attack. Pre-emptive strike on attack would be nice too. ;p

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