* Discussion topic: Problems faced by new players.

[Alex Houghton]

Master of Clan X wrote:
> Alex Houghton wrote:
> > Why would you play a game which allows
> > cheating to go on with no consequences.
> >
> > Finally the rude and disgusting mess this forum/DB has become...it is no
> > longer warm and welcoming, or even amusing as it once was.
>
> Why would you continue to post in a forum that is "no longer warm and
> welcoming"?
>
> Also... "warm", "welcoming"? When were those 2 words ever used to
> describe the BS forum?


I don't really, and compared to what the forum was I am not the only one... But as the topic of the thread was Problems faced by new payers, I thought I would mention it, as it would help.

[Master of Clan X]

Alex Houghton wrote:
> But as the topic of the thread was Problems faced by new payers, I thought I would mention
> it, as it would help.

So by "new players" you mean new players who skip the obvious beginner section, can't read the warning label and come straight to this un-warm and unwelcoming discussion board.

[Alex Houghton]

Master of Clan X wrote:
> Alex Houghton wrote:
> > But as the topic of the thread was Problems faced by new payers, I thought I
> would mention
> > it, as it would help.
>
> So by "new players" you mean new players who skip the obvious beginner
> section, can't read the warning label and come straight to this un-warm and
> unwelcoming discussion board.

Yes.. I never said they were smart.

[Master of Clan X]

Alex Houghton wrote:
> Yes.. I never said they were smart.

Feel free to ignore the fact that since the beginner section was set up there have been a lot more new players posting there.

[Alex Houghton]

Master of Clan X wrote:
> Alex Houghton wrote:
> > Yes.. I never said they were smart.
>
> Feel free to ignore the fact that since the beginner section was set up there have
> been a lot more new players posting there.

I will, ignoring stuff seems to be the go.

[andrew_wong93]

Alex Houghton wrote:
> The biggest problem face by not only newbies, but older players as well is
> that you no longer have to play. Everything has become automatic, there is
> no reason to log on and click anymore.

So there's auto pvp, auto war and auto boss hunts? Does that mean my exp bar also auto-increase? Fuuhhhh I'd like that

[Alex Houghton]

andrew_wong93 wrote:
> Alex Houghton wrote:
> > The biggest problem face by not only newbies, but older players as well is
> > that you no longer have to play. Everything has become automatic, there is
> > no reason to log on and click anymore.
>
> So there's auto pvp, auto war and auto boss hunts? Does that mean my exp bar also
> auto-increase? Fuuhhhh I'd like that

It can, depends on how you set yourself up

[Master of Clan X]

Now all Alex needs is a script to post in the forums about the DB not being moderated.

[Alex Houghton]

Master of Clan X wrote:
> Now all Alex needs is a script to post in the forums about the DB not being
> moderated.

Yep....

[Ramu Bhai]

STOP DERAILING THE THREAD!

Now that most of the *problems* have been pointed out with near consensus, let's hear from TYLER what they are going to do about these.

I would like LL to be assigned the task to re-balance things. He has done it well in the past, when it was *his* game!

[Nick Batzakis]

Too bad I missed the whole thing, and too bad I don't have the time and urge to read Samuel Chiou's points, which I am sure I will agree with at an over 90 percent ratio.

I believe the problems faced by new players are known and discussed and solved by the game's training clans.

Ooops, those don't exist. Too bad.

Then let's move over to the people who actually care about other people playing this game.

SELECT * FROM players WHERE give_a_damn > 0

[Forum Mod 2]

Thank you guys for the feedback. We will try tackle the various issues discussed in the thread to try to make things better.

We will keep you guys update here and I will probably use this as a thread to discuss some ideas to see if it helps or not though.

[Master of Clan X]

Nick Batzakis wrote:
> too bad I don't have the time and urge to read Samuel Chiou's points
> I believe the problems faced by new players are known and discussed and solved by the
> game's training clans.


I don't know what problems you mentioned but I'm sure training clans were the solution.

[Samuel Chiou]

All clans should be training clans. They don't need Michael "#Bottomfeed4Noobs" Lee or Daniel "It's a resource market trap!" Wong to hold both their hands and stop them sucking like a one trick prostitute. But it seems to me that the people in need of training fall into one of two categories.

1. The braindead foreigner. Practically untrainable. Even people who speak their language tell me they're hopeless cases. Common as muck.

2. The smart person. Next to no training needed besides a few tips and/or a nudge on the right tracks. Exceedingly rare. Often intelligent enough to see the problems with the game and quit.

And there's the people who never show up in chat or war at all who don't deserve a category (the majority of applicants).

[Ramu Bhai]

So any update on this one, have TYLER prepared a "TO-DO" list yet?