DEVS! Ocho buyer here. Please fix this shit already. Thanx.

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Re: DEVS! Ocho buyer here. Please fix this shit already. Tha

Post by Famous Warrior » 11 Apr 2012, 02:32

Rookles 2 wrote:
> No. I buy a Dark Blade for 45 Ocho. I put it on the Action block and it
> goes for a ridiculous amount... ~40mil (random number, often will go for
> higher than that).
>
> The Ocho price for gold in the shop is 5 million gold for 50 Ocho.
>
> Not that Ochoing gold has ever been a good financial move... but there is a
> Ghost Sail that had a bid of over 100m earlier today. For a GHOST SAIL.
> I've auctioned off tons of them already. If i got 100mil for them, I would
> be able to upgrade my fort like a madman.


Do you know how to read?

Do you know how to discuss something?

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Post by Mysterious Captain » 11 Apr 2012, 03:04

Everybody knows how to read & to discuss something.. you talk like you know how to operate the game.. just stfu and go back to preschool ==

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Post by Sky Tan » 11 Apr 2012, 03:34

>
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> Do you know how to read?
>
> Do you know how to discuss something?


Too many F**K to make a post so didnt read.

If u write a post with a Pseudonym behind a computer screen rage typing Fs all about trying to make a point most of the time you are getting no where.

Besides using "OCHO buyer " to gain attention is the first mis step and you know the reason why this thread is gettting to be a troll bait.
Cos the top 5% of the customers are easily identitfied without the need to use that. And those whom use that is just for Trolololol fun.

SOme points are already pointed out previously, and sometimes it is just the priority of the development cycle from their prespective not ours on the various platforms.

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Re: DEVS! Ocho buyer here. Please fix this shit already. Tha

Post by JamesTheGreat » 11 Apr 2012, 03:46

Grabs popcorn

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Post by Rookles 2 » 11 Apr 2012, 03:53

I know how to read decently, I suppose. Fairly OK at discussions, too. Let me use Big Bird terms for you on this one:

EGV mainly prevents multi abuse. If I have 400mil that I farmed with a multi... with no EGV, I would simply bid 400million on a CSB put up for auction by my main. Nobody in their right mind would spend that much on a CSB... so I just moved all my multi gold to my main via the auction.

It also limits the amount of gold in Sios and prevents too much inflation. Captain A puts up item with an EGV of 4 million up for auction. Captain B bids 45 million for auction item. Captain A gets 4 million gold. Remaining 41 million gold spent goes back to the system and is out of circulation.

Grinding/refining, Shipyard, Weapons/Parts Shops, Secret Shops, Casino, Island Upgrades and Ship repairs are the other ways that help reduce the overabundance of gold and resources in the game.

Since you want to discuss this properly... I ask again: How will removing EGV fix the problem you stated, "BS makes it way too easy to generate gold and it gives away too fucking much. This needs to stop."? Sounds to me like completely contradictory statements... unless I misunderstood you, which is totally possible.

Some of your comments had merit, but not all. This is the same typical post that us players post where we think we know what is best for the game and the Devs are all retarded.

Underwater combat? Crew Damage? Really? Who gives a f**k about that? To me, that is just another unnecessary element to the game that will more than like take a lot of work to implement and not be any kind of significant improvement on the gameplay.

And clicking on the Extractor once a day is murdering your time schedule? The rest of the island has static returns so it will be the same day-to-day. The extractor uses a RNG to determine how many PRocks you get based on your efficiency %. Sure, they could code it where the collect button automatically runs the RNG after the static buildings are harvested... but they felt it better to do it separate. It wasn't a f**k-up, just the way they decided to do it. I remember it being brought up once long ago in the old DBs, LL explained why they chose to do it and that was all there was to it. It's not exactly a "burning complaint" for the masses in Sios.

At the end of the day, Tyler decides what is important and what is not. They felt that changing the exploring and maps to make the game more interesting than the old exploring was key to getting new players and keeping them. People complain about missing the old quest system... but really? If you first started playing BS today for the very first time and you hit the old quest system you would say "f**k this... just like Mafia Wars." The new one isn't perfect, but its more intriguing and enveloping than the older systems. Now they are working more on CW for us older players. I agree... the renaming is a pain in the ass, but oh well.
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Post by Abhishek Goyal » 11 Apr 2012, 03:54

How about removed EGV be avaialble to only platinium or a good VIP level , besides for others if they want to recover full amount charge ochos from them ?

And also for the collect button i think it does not include plasma collect coz plasma collection is based on % where as other are static values .. So its better kinda have two buttons....

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Post by Rookles 2 » 11 Apr 2012, 03:59

Too slow, dude. :P

Also, regardless of VIP level, EGV is a good thing and prevents:

A) Multi Farming abuse
B) Gold flooded economy
C) OchoWhores getting obscene amounts of gold for Ocho items in the market. (Devs set the gold value of Ocho by selling it for a fixed price in the Shop and by using the EGV to control how much they can get for sold products)

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Post by Famous Warrior » 11 Apr 2012, 04:04

Mysterious Captain wrote:
> Everybody knows how to read & to discuss something.. you talk like you
> know how to operate the game.. just stfu and go back to preschool ==

Apparently not everyone.

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Re: DEVS! Ocho buyer here. Please fix this shit already. Tha

Post by Nick Amin » 11 Apr 2012, 04:08

Famous Warrior wrote:
> Mysterious Captain wrote:
> > Everybody knows how to read & to discuss something.. you talk like you
> > know how to operate the game.. just stfu and go back to preschool ==
>
> Apparently not everyone.

talk inglish u foo if u no talky ineglish ten get out DB dis db ony for INGLISH speak u can no read u no belogn

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Re: DEVS! Ocho buyer here. Please fix this shit already. Tha

Post by Sky Tan » 11 Apr 2012, 04:13

Rookles 2 wrote:
> Too slow, dude. :P
>
> Also, regardless of VIP level, EGV is a good thing and prevents:
>
> A) Multi Farming abuse
> B) Gold flooded economy
> C) OchoWhores getting obscene amounts of gold for Ocho items in the market.
> (Devs set the gold value of Ocho by selling it for a fixed price in the
> Shop and by using the EGV to control how much they can get for sold
> products)


Read my WOT wishlist yet

:P

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Side Note.
Hui,Axel,LiaBa,Anton,Yuan to rig the markets for 3 months you can try to see the inflation

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Post by Giphin- » 11 Apr 2012, 04:14

BOOBS

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Post by Abhishek Goyal » 11 Apr 2012, 04:15

Not on PC thats y too slow :p

But if EGV is removed many rares will bump into market .. Then you dont know which one is yours .. And also it makes parts and weapons available for non ocho .. Do not give 100 % but 50 % or something... If want to recover this % charge ocho this will prevent non ocho to put rares in market without egv .. And also good ocho regular player can sell off their item without EGV..

This will make some imbalance in begining but in longer run things will settle... Actually current egv are too low for some item....but yet your points are equaly valid ;)

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Post by Chuck Heldridge » 11 Apr 2012, 04:43

Obviously the EGV removal would be bad, but the rest of the points are pretty good.

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Post by noob_noob » 11 Apr 2012, 04:56

Sky Tan wrote:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Side Note.
> Hui,Axel,LiaBa,Anton,Yuan to rig the markets for 3 months you can try to see the
> inflation

Did anyone say remove EGV? Teehehehe... I have tons to sell :3

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Post by Rookles 2 » 11 Apr 2012, 04:57

For Chuck.

#1 - Weapon Names uniformity in ALL messages.
^^^ Yes, needs to be fixed. Send in a support ticket when you notice an error.

#2 - WTF can't people collect Plasma from the Extractor with the Collect button?
^^^ Not really an issue, just a preference and not even significant in the grand scheme of betterment of the game.

#3 - Aeros is no longer a Peace Port, nerf the AP travel cost already.
^^^ Meh. Lets make all port to port travel just 5AP while we are at it? I think traveling costs suck all together. But cost of travel to Aeros is not breaking the game... decent suggestion (that has been brought up before), but not exactly on my "Top 8 List of Things that BS Needs to Improve".

#4 - Implement old fucking features we've been waiting for already, for the sake of Humanity. Underwater combat. Crew Damage. Moving Forts. Fort weapons and parts. Anti-missile Systems.
^^^ Who the hell cares? These are just extra things to add more layers to the game. I'd rather them clean up what they have now before tackling any more major mechanic changes. As far as Tyler working on other projects... am I writing MS and telling them to quit fucking around with MS Office because I was pissed at Vista? If they feel as a company to spend resources on new games... they are a GAME DEVELOPING COMPANY. Thats what they do. Excuse them for trying to not be a one trick pony. Maybe they can catch lightning in a bottle for a second time.

#5 - Change the quests. They are boring. This is not just me, this is the opinion of lots of new users i invited and failed to keep around. The era of the Click Game is over, wake up. Time to turn Battle Stations into a real game.
^^^ Ok. What do you suggest? Dont just come with bitches, come with solutions/suggestions. The new system is MUCH more entertaining than the old quest systems from before... those were Mafia Wars "Click Games". This isn't Elder Scrolls... this is a flash based combat game. The intent seems to be get them playing the quests and get them into CW before the novelty wears off. Also, kill all the fail clans so that new players dont join one and quit because their CM SUCKS.

#6 - Why the f**k does it take me 2 clicks to change a setup in the Hangar?
^^^ Good point.

#7 - f**k! There it is again! That annoying, traffic bouncing Splash Page!
^^^ Good point.

#8 - I haven't been to the auctions in almost a year, so let me go there and see how things are com... OH FOR f**k'S SAKE! THE EGV CAP IS STILL HERE!? FUUUUCK!
^^^ It is NECESSARY.

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