DEVS! Ocho buyer here. Please fix this shit already. Thanx.

[Master of Clan X]

Famous Warrior wrote:
> Ok, then how do you explain the Ocho Shop thinking that a Firestorm Drive is still
> called an Inferno Thrusters?
>
> Also, how do you explain the fact that besides you, the other big bosses don't
> participate as much in the forums aside from official business (announcements, tech
> support, etc)?
>
> ...and other such discrepancies?


They are fully disconnected, duh.

[Famous Warrior]

Rookles 2 wrote:
> Famous Warrior wrote:
> > As far as your EGV argument goes, i already answered that.
>
>
> Not very well, you didn't. I'll repost my full explanation why I think EGV is a
> must. Please tell me if it is incorrect, and if so, how?
>
>
>
>
> "EGV mainly prevents multi abuse. If I have 400mil that I farmed with a
> multi... with no EGV, I would simply bid 400million on a CSB put up for auction by my
> main. Nobody in their right mind would spend that much on a CSB... so I just moved
> all my multi gold to my main via the auction.
>
> It also limits the amount of gold in Sios and prevents too much inflation. Captain A
> puts up item with an EGV of 4 million up for auction. Captain B bids 45 million for
> auction item. Captain A gets 4 million gold. Remaining 41 million gold spent goes
> back to the system and is out of circulation."


Ok, this DB is not posting my posts. Here is my second timer.

You can solve the multi-abuse issue by having TYLER confirm your ID via bank account or bank card. eBay, Amazon and PayPal already do this to cut down on THEIR multi-abuse.

Once this is done, all players that are confirmed can then partake on transactions such as giving gold to a fort, repairing a fort, sending Gifts, making bids, etc.

Also, stop exchanging gold for time, this causes inflation. Exchange gold only for AP through combat, war and exploring.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

[Famous Warrior]

Leonard Lin wrote:
> I really didn't want to bother with a reply since I'm not representing Tyler but for
> the sake of argument (and for those who really want to know) here goes:
>
> Famous Warrior wrote:
> > #1 - Weapon Names uniformity in ALL messages. Firestorm Drive is still
> > Inferno Thrusters when you buy it at the Ocho Shop. There are others as
> > well. How can you miss basic, stupid shit like this is beyond me
>
> The programmer who works on the Ocho shop doesn't check the weapons table. It's not
> his job. It shouldn't be his job, the Ocho shop shouldn't have a different set of
> names from the actual items sold. Poor coding, a legacy left behind by Ron that would
> take man-months to fix.

Oh, i understand the ills of poor coding all too well, but then why did they change the part names?


> > #3 - Aeros is no longer a Peace Port, nerf the AP travel cost already.
>
> Nerf? by how much? Should AP costs be removed? or changed? Not putting enough thought
> into this.

Not eliminate, just reduce it to reflect the new balance. No Peace Port, no extra AP cost. Also, since they decided to eliminate Port Location from Captain Profiles and kill hunting and sniping, shouldn't Ancient Battlegrounds lose their Peace Port status and special AP restraining ability? Maybe it would be better to turn ABG into the only place to war and open up Battle to enable sniping, it was so much fun.


> > #4 - Implement old fucking features we've been waiting for already, for the
> > sake of Humanity. Underwater combat. Crew Damage.
>
> You could do a poll, I think most would tell you that skills in the hangar, the war
> console, trying to balance Tier S are more impt.

Fair enough.


> > #5 - Change the quests.
>
> Asking for a change without specifying what the problem is.

Lack of depth. Look at King Arthur 2, it is a strategy game that has a Conversation Tree ala Mass Effect. Classic RPG Conversation choices would put alot of depth in the game. Also, BS3 questing is painfully slow, the text is slow, the movements are slow, the splash achievements are slow, everything is very slow.


> > #7 - f**k! There it is again! That annoying, traffic bouncing Splash Page!
>
> No supportive references.

The top games do not have splash pages for this reason, i also had alot of bounces from my experiment with FB ads at the splash page.

Also, people way smarter than me agree:

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/how-to-convi ... plash-page


> > #8 - I haven't been to the auctions in almost a year, so let me go there
> > and see how things are com... OH FOR f**k'S SAKE! THE EGV CAP IS STILL
> > HERE!? FUUUUCK!

I have, let me repost it here:

You can solve the multi-abuse issue by having TYLER confirm your ID via bank account or bank card. eBay, Amazon and PayPal already do this to cut down on THEIR multi-abuse.

Once this is done, all players that are confirmed can then partake on transactions such as giving gold to a fort, repairing a fort, sending Gifts, making bids, etc.

Also, stop exchanging gold for time, this causes inflation. Exchange gold only for AP through combat, war and exploring.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

[Famous Warrior]

Samuel Chiou wrote:
> Nothing made people flock to BS like those lovely cute ships from 2008.
> They and the game were so inviting...so endearing...so cheerful.
>
> *sniff*



Yeah, i agree. Non-threatening art attracts women players more.

[Rookles 2]

Amazon and PayPal are all based on financial transactions. The majority of the players here play casually and many probably don't even have CCs or even a bank account ( <18). If you are forced to post this stuff to take part in major aspects of the game, they will probably quit.

[John Benecke]

I only read the first post.

f**k the rest.

+1 Billion

this is the best thread I have ever read.

[Famous Warrior]

Rookles 2 wrote:
> Amazon and PayPal are all based on financial transactions. The majority of
> the players here play casually and many probably don't even have CCs or
> even a bank account ( <18). If you are forced to post this stuff to take
> part in major aspects of the game, they will probably quit.

They won't quit if the game is fun, they won't quit just because they can't farm gold.

Instead of a click fest, how about BS adopts a good ol' fashion combat element system? This will allow players to use their decision making skill and their prediction skill, or Yomi, and this is quite fun for many people. Use the theme of steam punk sky ships and you're good.
This is much better than "click and stuff happens", it needs to be "different things happen depending on what you click". For an example of this, think Pokemon, Final Fantasy and basically the vast majority of Strategy and RPGs.

[Dirty Stallis]

Rookles 2 wrote:
> Amazon and PayPal are all based on financial transactions. The majority of
> the players here play casually and many probably don't even have CCs or
> even a bank account ( <18). If you are forced to post this stuff to take
> part in major aspects of the game, they will probably quit.

If I had to enter in bank account information before I could access parts of the game interface, I would have quit. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Master of Clan X]

Famous Warrior wrote:
> Oh, i understand the ills of poor coding all too well, but then why did they change
> the part names?

Are you suggesting it should be changed back?


> Not eliminate, just reduce it to reflect the new balance.

It was already nerfed by 10 AP I believe.


> Lack of depth. Look at King Arthur 2, it is a strategy game that has a Conversation
> Tree ala Mass Effect. Classic RPG Conversation choices would put alot of depth in the
> game.

Have you considered the cost?


> Also, people way smarter than me agree:
>
> http://www.seomoz.org/blog/how-to-convi ... plash-page

Thanks. Btw, BS3.5 doesn't require the splash page but it's not done yet. Just get rid of the splash page now right? Some redesign would be needed for the stuff that's on the splash page >> that's BS3.5



> eBay, Amazon and PayPal already do this to cut down on THEIR
> multi-abuse.

And the reason Zynga and Blizzard aren't doing this is...

[Famous Warrior]

Dirty Stallis wrote:
> Rookles 2 wrote:
> > Amazon and PayPal are all based on financial transactions. The majority of
> > the players here play casually and many probably don't even have CCs or
> > even a bank account ( <18). If you are forced to post this stuff to take
> > part in major aspects of the game, they will probably quit.
>
> If I had to enter in bank account information before I could access parts of the game
> interface, I would have quit. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Ok, fine, then bank card info or PayPal account or something.

[Dirty Stallis]

Famous Warrior wrote:
> Dirty Stallis wrote:
> > Rookles 2 wrote:
> > > Amazon and PayPal are all based on financial transactions. The majority of
> > > the players here play casually and many probably don't even have CCs or
> > > even a bank account ( <18). If you are forced to post this stuff to take
> > > part in major aspects of the game, they will probably quit.
> >
> > If I had to enter in bank account information before I could access parts of the
> game
> > interface, I would have quit. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
>
> Ok, fine, then bank card info or PayPal account or something.

That's all the same thing. I would not have given credit card, bank card, paypal, certificiate of deposit, western union, or any other type of financial information to gain access to portions of the game interface.

[Famous Warrior]

Leonard Lin wrote:
> Famous Warrior wrote:
> > Oh, i understand the ills of poor coding all too well, but then why did they
> change
> > the part names?
>
> Are you suggesting it should be changed back?

If it's easier than months of coding the foundation, yes, unless there is some super important reason why the names were changed in the first place.


> > Not eliminate, just reduce it to reflect the new balance.
>
> It was already nerfed by 10 AP I believe.

Nope. Still 30 AP from the closest location.


> > Lack of depth. Look at King Arthur 2, it is a strategy game that has a
> Conversation
> > Tree ala Mass Effect. Classic RPG Conversation choices would put alot of depth
> in the
> > game.
>
> Have you considered the cost?

No, but mainly for not having access to your books.


> > Also, people way smarter than me agree:
> >
> > http://www.seomoz.org/blog/how-to-convi ... plash-page
>
> Thanks. Btw, BS3.5 doesn't require the splash page but it's not done yet. Just get
> rid of the splash page now right? Some redesign would be needed for the stuff that's
> on the splash page >> that's BS3.5

Awesome news!


> > eBay, Amazon and PayPal already do this to cut down on THEIR
> > multi-abuse.
>
> And the reason Zynga and Blizzard aren't doing this is...

Because they WANT puppet accounts in order to inflate their numbers and impress their gullible investors and new players. Going against the grain here means credibility for BS and paired with a great competition system based on Yomi, it would stand in sharp contrast to the abuse-saturated opposition.

[Famous Warrior]

Dirty Stallis wrote:
> Famous Warrior wrote:
> > Dirty Stallis wrote:
> > > Rookles 2 wrote:
> > > > Amazon and PayPal are all based on financial transactions. The
> majority of
> > > > the players here play casually and many probably don't even have CCs
> or
> > > > even a bank account ( <18). If you are forced to post this stuff to
> take
> > > > part in major aspects of the game, they will probably quit.
> > >
> > > If I had to enter in bank account information before I could access parts
> of the
> > game
> > > interface, I would have quit. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
> >
> > Ok, fine, then bank card info or PayPal account or something.
>
> That's all the same thing. I would not have given credit card, bank card, paypal,
> certificiate of deposit, western union, or any other type of financial information to
> gain access to portions of the game interface.

Ok, then you and your puppet farm can go somewhere else. How's that?

The benefits would greatly outweigh the cost.

[Samuel Chiou]

I think the combat system is already like that.

[Dirty Stallis]

lol

I'm sure Tyler would rather have more paying customers than less paying customers.